A former senior transition official explained that Pence was mostly concerned with “human resources” and personnel in his role as transition chairman, which included oversight of major Cabinet appointments. Another adviser to the vice president said he was focused on interviewing candidates for Senate-confirmable posts.
Two senior transition officials mentioned to CNN that Pence was slowly weened off of email during the transition period, another step to prepare him for his new role as vice president. One of the officials says that Pence’s team actively tried to protect him from the various characters in Trump Tower and transition offices during that time period.
“We definitely tried to cut down on the unfettered access folks had to him but it was more about allowing him to focus on the task at hand,” this official said.
On the multiple days last December when Flynn was speaking with Kislyak, Pence was thousands of miles away, according to his travel records and a senior transition official at the time, conducting transition meetings in Washington and preparing for his son’s wedding in Indianapolis, where he was also busy packing up his home to move to Washington.
One senior White House official said that while there was “some” interaction between Pence and Flynn during the transition, it was not “extensive.”
“Mike was coming up with the process for filling Cabinet posts. The Flynn thing was out of his hands — he’s been on the campaign from the start,” this official said when asked about Pence’s level of trust in the incoming national security adviser.
It’s that argument — Pence was more of a newcomer than Flynn — that people close to the vice president say bolsters his claim that he didn’t know about the extent of these Russian calls. Yet that explanation will surely be tested anew as Mueller’s probe reaches closer to Trump’s inner circle.
Trump’s national security team, who operated out of a conference room in Trump Tower, was based in New York during the transition, while Pence increasingly spent more time in Washington at the presidential transition offices blocks away from the White House. He even took up temporary residence at a house in Chevy Chase while Trump continued to live in his Manhattan apartment.
Two transition officials who prepared the vice president for his television appearance on January 15 said that questions about Flynn and Kislyak were not a surprise.
“We knew Pence would get asked about it,” one senior transition official said.
Another transition official said Pence called Flynn on January 14 specifically so he could say during his Sunday show appearances that he’d spoken with the national security adviser about his conversations with Kislyak.
Flynn insisted to Pence did not discuss sanctions with Kislyak, and during his two television appearances, Pence readily relayed that information — which turned out to be a lie. Pence discovered that Flynn lied to him through media reports on February 9 as The Washington Post reported that Flynn had in fact spoken with Kislyak about Russian sanctions.
When asked if Pence as vice president-elect or vice president ever had any reservations about Flynn, one senior transition official says that Pence and Flynn didn’t really cross paths often during the campaign because Flynn traveled with Trump on his campaign plane, but that Pence and Flynn’s relationship was “perfectly fine and cordial.”
That changed after Flynn’s untruths were outed.
“He was genuinely stunned and pissed when he found out that Flynn misled him and let him go out on national TV with inaccurate information,” one senior adviser to Pence said. There was concern at the time from Pence’s staff that the vice president had been purposefully misled and that even White House officials had kept the vice president in the dark.
One person close to the vice president told CNN in February that they wanted to know who among the President’s staff made the decision to tell Trump but not tell the man who went on television as the face of the administration.
The questions about what Pence knew — or how he managed to stay in the dark — about the Russian contacts aren’t likely to subside. Yet Pence has not publicly signaled any signs of worry.
He’s carrying on with his duties and keeping his connections with key Republicans. He invited about 80 guests to his official residence, the Naval Observatory, for a Christmas party on Monday night, one of many that he and Karen Pence are hosting this year. Republicans flew in from across the country to attend.
Pence worked his way around the room, attendees said, talking individually with guests for about 90 minutes. His mood was upbeat and bright as he visited with old Republican friends.
The vice president delivered no formal address nor did he talk about the matter consuming much of Washington: the Russia investigation.